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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once this new site is operational, I was wondering if it would be possible to send out an email blast to the former poopli members to let them know it's available. If possible, maybe just the users who had logged in just in the previous 1 or 2 years.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

truckie36 wrote:
truckie36 wrote:
Here are some instructions for changing the Host file.

Right click on Notepad and Run as administrator.
File > Open > Computer > Local Disk (C) > Windows > System32 > drivers > etc
In the lower right corner change from Text Documents to All Files.
Double click on Hosts
Add the following at the bottom of the text.

199.241.200.76 poopli.com
199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

Click File > Save


What part are you having trouble with?
aarrgg---i still cant point this--let me ask where do i open the notepad--at the desktop or at poopli .com---then where do i stow it---d
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfrdan wrote:
aarrgg---i still cant point this--let me ask where do i open the notepad--at the desktop or at poopli .com---then where do i stow it---d


"Notepad" is the name of a very simple text editor that is included with all versions of Windows. When editing the "hosts" file, you need the updated "hosts" file to replace the old one, in the same location with the same name. Since changing the "hosts" file can cause internet communication to be re-routed (the whole point of what we are doing here) it is a protected file so not just anyone can make changes or remove it by accident. Administrator rights are required when working with protected files.

Some versions of Windows hide the location of the "hosts" file on top of this, so you can not just go searching for it unless you tell Windows Explorer to stop hiding system files and paths. But since we know the location we can just point Notepad directly to it by entering the following at the Command Prompt:
notepad c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

To run the Command Prompt so it has the Administrator (Elevated) Rights to do so, follow the steps corresponding to the version of Windows you are running:
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/commandlinereference/f/elevated-command-prompt.htm

When Notepad comes up, add these two lines at the bottom, then save over the original "hosts" file:
199.241.200.76 poopli.com
199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

These lines mean that anytime something tries to go to "poopli.com" or "www.poopli.com" it will instead be redirected to the computer at the 199.241.200.76 IP address, which is what we want, since that is where the new Poopli is being hosted.

Some programs cache information, so to make sure it takes effect you will want to restart any programs that may interact with Poopli (such as WiRNS and IVSmagic.)

This is all very easy, but with my extra wording as well as the extra wording in the "About.Com" link it may look intimidating, but you are only following a few short, easy steps. The rest is just explanations of what and why things are being done the way they are.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jimwise wrote:


1. When "Managing Requests", add a check box for "Unable to contact ReplayTV", and have it include a link to the IVS Tester at:
http://www.replaytvupgrade.com/ivstest/


I put that in last night for truckie36, because he's constantly sending me those messages. It's just not staged to the public instance yet.

jimwise wrote:

2. Have a way to contact others through the system. It can be useful to let someone know that you have the show but it had election results scrolling across the bottom, that you have the show in both letterbox and 16x9A formats and want to know which they would prefer, a transfer seems to have been stuck and you wanted to check in and see what was going on, etc.


Yeah, I was thinking about that last night when I was enumerating things to put in the "there's a problem" listbox.

Archie's poopli had a complete email thing in it, didn't it, so that you could "contact user such-and-such", without anybody exposing their actual email addresses to other poopli users. Except for me, because I used an email address as my user name so that people could email me. And almost nobody did!

The easy/immediate way to provide "contact user such-and-such" is with a mailto url, but then you can't keep your email address secret. The harder way is with pop-up web mailing crud that hides the email addresses. Is anonymity important to anyone? If so, speak up. I'm curious what people think.

jimwise wrote:

3. There are pros and cons to the drop-down search method for shows that is in place vs a text search. It has opened my eyes to series/episodes I had not thought about searching for before, but at times I also have to be more aware of what I am looking for. For example, with a text box search I can put in "Big Bang" and have it give me "The Big Bang Theory" without me having to remember if the official show title contained the article "The" or not. Also sometimes two episodes premier as a pair within a single extended time slot. Being able to do a text search will bring up all results from when it premiered as a pair as well as reruns when it was shown as a single episode. Also, some of us rename shows with slightly varying methods of "S## E##", "s##e##" or "SSEE" for the season/episode number, so the drop-down lists have the same episode from different people jumbled around a bit. With a text search on a database you DEFINITELY need to put in protections though so should someone put in a search for something like "; DROPTABLE" will not cause an unwanted SQL command to be run.


For SQL injection attacks right now you have to use the replaytv registration page. No, too late. Wait, don't try to prove me wrong!

I would not argue that the listboxes are an excellent show choosing interface, just one that I could do - because I've never done any HTTP or HTML before. I see the same problems you do.

We need to improve it, but I don't think I'm going to get to it today. So we have time to collect some ideas. Or volunteers.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
    # space.
    #
    # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    #
    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost
this is what i get both ways --truckie and jims help
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
    # space.
    #
    # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    #
    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost
    # 199.241.200.76 poopli.com
    # 199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com
i added the lines in this one and saved it---d
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfrdan wrote:
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should

    ...

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost
    # 199.241.200.76 poopli.com
    # 199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com
i added the lines in this one and saved it---d


Dan,

Remove the # and spaces from the beginning of the two poopli lines so they look like this:

199.241.200.76 poopli.com
199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

Save the file. (The # makes the line a comment and it is ignored.)

Don
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a poopli Reply with quote

replaytv@volpe.com wrote:

Still waiting to see if poopli.com will be available. If not, maybe noopli.com....? At least it's the same number of characters.



My vote is for voopli.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys, On vacation but I want to say very well done. I've logged in from my campground and registered my account and replay's so a couple of those Martian replays may go away.

Hats Off!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a poopli Reply with quote

threasoner wrote:
My vote is for voopli.com


I'll second the motion!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

truckie36 wrote:
Here are some instructions for changing the Host file.

Right click on Notepad and Run as administrator.
File > Open > Computer > Local Disk (C) > Windows > System32 > drivers > etc
In the lower right corner change from Text Documents to All Files.
Double click on Hosts
Add the following at the bottom of the text.

199.241.200.76 poopli.com
199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

Click File > Save


I have dnsmasq (DD-WRT router firmware). It works to use this to redirect (and it works for all computers in the network). I have the following:

address=/replaytv.net/192.168.1.81
address=/poopli.com/199.241.200.76

The first line is for WiRNS. The second is for Poopli (note there is a built-in wildcard feature, so www.poopli.com is redirected too).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cliffcor Sent me a request last night for an episode of Major Crimes but, his unit is unreachable. I just PM'd him on this forum, and I'm writing here, hoping he will see this. I still have the show, so I don't want to decline, but I can't send it either.

Maybe add a check box of "attempted to send but unit was unreachable" or something. So, that they can reboot and then re-request.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rlichtefeld wrote:
cliffcor Sent me a request last night for an episode of Major Crimes but, his unit is unreachable. I just PM'd him on this forum, and I'm writing here, hoping he will see this. I still have the show, so I don't want to decline, but I can't send it either.

Maybe add a check box of "attempted to send but unit was unreachable" or something. So, that they can reboot and then re-request.

Rob


I see that you already added that!!! I declined his request and used the pull down to say why

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another tweak request:

Some shows (especially daily shows) do not have episode titles that differentiate them, you have to go by the air date/time. Also some prime time shows are cut by 5 min or so when they are rebroadcast to cram in more ads, so you lose a bit from when it was premiered. Including the Date/Time the show was recorded both on the search as well as within the request e-mail would be helpful with this.

(I tried to send some brownies in appreciation of all the work, but all it did was make a mess of my router.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

threasoner wrote:
srfrdan wrote:
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should

    ...

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost
    # 199.241.200.76 poopli.com
    # 199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com
i added the lines in this one and saved it---d


Dan,

Remove the # and spaces from the beginning of the two poopli lines so they look like this:

199.241.200.76 poopli.com
199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

Save the file. (The # makes the line a comment and it is ignored.)

Don
still no joy ---thanks to all for your patience and help-- i was wondering if i should have used my old username and password instead of a new one---what did u guys do---d -- p.s i also tried Mark's way.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

threasoner wrote:
truckie36 wrote:
Is there an etc under drivers?


Dan,

I just had the same problem on Win 8 that an antivirus program is hiding this folder\file and marking it as read only. If I navigate to C:\Windows\System32\drivers no \etc folder shows (even though my settings are to show system hidden folders) however, if I use file open in Notepad++ and paste C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc into the address bar, it does open the folder. For me, it was Spybot Search & Destroy that was hiding the file. It had also marked it as read only.

Make sure you open Notepad as an Administrator.
if i open notepad on poopli.com below is what i get using ur suggestion, is this ok here--d
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
    # space.
    #
    # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    #
    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost

    199.241.200.76 poopli.com
    199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfrdan wrote:
threasoner wrote:
truckie36 wrote:
Is there an etc under drivers?


Dan,

I just had the same problem on Win 8 that an antivirus program is hiding this folder\file and marking it as read only. If I navigate to C:\Windows\System32\drivers no \etc folder shows (even though my settings are to show system hidden folders) however, if I use file open in Notepad++ and paste C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc into the address bar, it does open the folder. For me, it was Spybot Search & Destroy that was hiding the file. It had also marked it as read only.

Make sure you open Notepad as an Administrator.
if i open notepad on poopli.com below is what i get using ur suggestion, is this ok here--d
    # Copyright (c) 1993-2009 Microsoft Corp.
    #
    # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
    #
    # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
    # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address should
    # be placed in the first column followed by the corresponding host name.
    # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
    # space.
    #
    # Additionally, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
    # lines or following the machine name denoted by a '#' symbol.
    #
    # For example:
    #
    # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
    # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

    # localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
    # 127.0.0.1 localhost
    # ::1 localhost

    199.241.200.76 poopli.com
    199.241.200.76 www.poopli.com


If you save that in the file "hosts" in the c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc folder, that should work. You may need to restart WiRNS (or whatever you're using to update the show database) before it takes effect. You commented earlier about renaming the file but dns only looks at the "hosts" file in that location.

I am starting to get some funky behavior on Win 8.1 from Chrome (DEV 64 bit version) when trying to resolve poopli.com from the hosts file, but I suspect that antivirus may be the culprit. However, I'm not running WiRNS there; it is still on a Win XP box.

I hope that helps,
Don
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oookaaaay---8 of the 15 replays did refresh at about 7 pm today so some progress but i dont for sure how it was configed---d
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tirebiter wrote:
Once this new site is operational, I was wondering if it would be possible to send out an email blast to the former poopli members to let them know it's available. If possible, maybe just the users who had logged in just in the previous 1 or 2 years.


Yes, I had no idea till tonight. I will get my 4 units going soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(EDITED) Done 2810 mostly anamorphic shows. Showing up now!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all the replays updated today---again thanks for all the help---- ---there are four wirns computers including this one that have this date on it, 1969-12-31 15:59:59, so ill have to work on that---d
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

srfrdan wrote:
all the replays updated today---again thanks for all the help---- ---there are four wirns computers including this one that have this date on it, 1969-12-31 15:59:59, so ill have to work on that---d
the computers all updated as well gradually---d
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had my first request that has now completed. Everything went great from my end. Only possible improvement would be to add a show date, since this particular show aired two nights in a row with the same main title. Was able to determine easily enough with the description, but just a thought. All in all though, great job!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: I made a poopli Reply with quote

threasoner wrote:
replaytv@volpe.com wrote:

Still waiting to see if poopli.com will be available. If not, maybe noopli.com....? At least it's the same number of characters.



My vote is for voopli.com


FYI... voopli.com .net and .tv are all available, it appears

as is poopli.tv (might be a placeholder until you hear back from Archie)


Was surprised to find the following all attached to active businesses...

poopli.net - Chinese "new" energy company
doopli.com - web hosting/web developer dude in North Carolina
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

p.s. Looks like my 3 Replays and 1 IVSmagic server are uploading to voopli. (they now have names in the "manage" page, and errors are '0' for each)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 12:47 pm    Post subject: When updating your 'hosts' file on Windows... Reply with quote

Also, when updating your 'hosts' file on Windows, to override the official name resolution response for (www.)poopli.com, do NOT use the 'nslookup' utility to test whether the update is active. nslookup bypasses the 'hosts' file on Windows 7 (and other versions, it appears) and will return a strictly DNS response, instead.

The simplest test is to try pinging www.poopli.com and/or poopli.com, and checking the IP address reported within the ping results.

The ping test indicates I'm ready to go...
Code:
C:\>ping poopli.com

Pinging poopli.com [199.241.200.76] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 199.241.200.76: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=48
Reply from 199.241.200.76: bytes=32 time=75ms TTL=48
Reply from 199.241.200.76: bytes=32 time=74ms TTL=48
Reply from 199.241.200.76: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 199.241.200.76:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 72ms, Maximum = 75ms, Average = 73ms


While nslookup (on my Win 7 Ultimate PC) returns an unhappy result, since it ignores the 'hosts' file...
Code:
C:>nslookup poopli.com
Server:  router
Address:  192.168.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    poopli.com
Address:  216.154.213.97


My Replays are all talking to voopli, via the redirected resolution entries in my hosts file; but thanks, Microsoft, for that bit of wasted time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: When updating your 'hosts' file on Windows... Reply with quote

krkaufman wrote:
My Replays are all talking to voopli, via the redirected resolution entries in my hosts file; but thanks, Microsoft, for that bit of wasted time.


This has nothing to do with Microsoft at all. nslookup is a DNS utility tool which runs on many operating systems. It doesn't have much to do with the workstation it is run on, it only communicates and tests the DNS server that you select. If you had your local machine running as a DNS server and wanted to test how it resolved names which might be impacted by the hosts file, then you would set your server to 127.0.0.1 so that you would actually be going through your local machine. But, as you can see from your own posted nslookup output, you set the server to your router, and nslookup simply asked your router to lookup poopli.com. There's no opportunity for the local hosts file to get involved in this case, and would be no different on any other operating system. Now, if you edited the hosts file on your router, then your nslookup test would have tested that the hosts file modification on your router was working properly. So, you really can't blame Microsoft for this, it is the documented way that nslookup operates, which is exactly as would be expected by a DNS utility tool. Personally, I would be very unhappy if I was using nslookup to test my router's DNS and my local hosts file made it so that I did not get the correct results of what my router was doing...

Henry
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Hi guys!

Two things.
I'll reach out to arch and see if he'll let me have the domain.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: When updating your 'hosts' file on Windows... Reply with quote

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krkaufman wrote:
My Replays are all talking to voopli, via the redirected resolution entries in my hosts file; but thanks, Microsoft, for that bit of wasted time.


This has nothing to do with Microsoft at all.


Actually, it has everything to do with Microsoft and Microsoft's implementation varying from my experience on a variety of Unix platforms, where DNS was just one of the resources searched as part of an nslookup query. (and where search priority was configurable)

That Microsoft's nslookup implementation wasn't mongrelized to make its responses more reflective of the system's actual name resolution behavior is another matter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: When updating your 'hosts' file on Windows... Reply with quote

krkaufman wrote:
Actually, it has everything to do with Microsoft and Microsoft's implementation varying from my experience on a variety of Unix platforms, where DNS was just one of the resources searched as part of an nslookup query. (and where search priority was configurable)

That Microsoft's nslookup implementation wasn't mongrelized to make its responses more reflective of the system's actual name resolution behavior is another matter.

I don't understand your statement. If you run nslookup on any UNIX platform, it also won't use the workstation's local hosts file either. So, you'd have the same experience on any UNIX platform, that editing the workstation's local hosts file and then running ping would reflect the change, but running nslookup would not reflect the change. nslookup is a simple DNS tools for working with a DNS server. The resolving names on the workstation itself is more complex that just "talking" to the DNS server. That is, nslookup will never use the workstation's local hosts file on any platform, that has nothing to do with how nslookup operates, and certainly nothing to do with Microsoft's "unique" implementation...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: When updating your 'hosts' file on Windows... Reply with quote

hdonzis wrote:
I don't understand your statement. If you run nslookup on any UNIX platform, it also won't use the workstation's local hosts file either. So, you'd have the same experience on any UNIX platform, that editing the workstation's local hosts file and then running ping would reflect the change, but running nslookup would not reflect the change. nslookup is a simple DNS tools for working with a DNS server. The resolving names on the workstation itself is more complex that just "talking" to the DNS server. That is, nslookup will never use the workstation's local hosts file on any platform, that has nothing to do with how nslookup operates, and certainly nothing to do with Microsoft's "unique" implementation...

Doh! I had to re-read your original post to see that you were running nslookup in non-interactive mode. Because I am always telling people to run nslookup to test the WiRNS DNS service, I always assume that people are using it in interactive mode. So, you are correct, don't use Microsoft's implementation of nslookup in non-interactive mode to test the local hosts file. Personally, I always use ping to test name resolution, it seems to be a more universal way of testing that function...

Henry

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