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 Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: Re: replacing hard drive 4500 |
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| pencil wrote: | if we need to replace a hard drive after july 31, do we know if this is going to be a problem or will the system go through the authorization thru wirns as done thru the mothership previously?
anything we do do to prepare for life after no mothership?
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I re-imaged a 5504 (in order to enable IVS), and got it set up with WiRNS3.
It required disabling DHCP but it worked.
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| i got everything going but across the top of config page it says warning :accessing wirns configuration server limits functionality what does that mean |
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mlloyd
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| ppahr wrote: | | i got everything going but across the top of config page it says warning :accessing wirns configuration server limits functionality what does that mean |
I never got that configuration server, and didn't know how until I saw messages from others. I wonder how they went wrong.
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totavi
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: Can't get past the 3.0 install |
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| Trying to install 3.0 on Windows XP. Had 2.1 installed and tried to update to 3.0. Installer quit prematurely so I did an uninstall of 2.1. Tried to install 3.0 again after a system reboot; but same problem. I'm missing something obvious; any suggestions? |
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run windows updates.
be sure to be logged in with "administrator rights" |
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totavi
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:36 pm Post subject: Can't get past the 3.0 install |
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I was logged on as administrator. I just performed system updates but 3.0 installer still "ends prematurely because of error". Installed WiRNS 2.1 about 10 days ago with no problems. I'm not aware of any changes to my system since then.
I'm using a Mac with Windows XP embedded in the machine as an application (Parallels Desktop) so this is alittle unusual but, as stated above, WiRINS 2.1 installed and operated with no problem. I now regret uninstalling it; the hole is getting deeper. |
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pencil
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hard drive 4500 after 8/1/11 |
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| mlloyd wrote: | | pencil wrote: | if we need to replace a hard drive after july 31, do we know if this is going to be a problem or will the system go through the authorization thru wirns as done thru the mothership previously?
anything we do do to prepare for life after no mothership?
thanks |
I re-imaged a 5504 (in order to enable IVS), and got it set up with WiRNS3.
It required disabling DHCP but it worked. |
I am unclear what you mean by turning off dchp. I do not have all my home network computers set as static addresses, only the one running wirns so i do not think i should/can do this at the router.
When i start using a new harddrive in my 4500 replay, the default ip settings are NOT STATIC. so wont it automatically try to go to the 'old mothership'?
are the files for wirns to handle all that the mothership did not local on my home computer, or some on a networked wirms server?
how do i test to be sure? (perhaps try a fresh disk image, unplug the cable modem from the outside internet)? not sure how i get the replay to point to the wirns on my lan if it is not authorized yet?
thanks for the assistance. i fell like i am almost there. |
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mlloyd
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| Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: replacing hard drive 4500 after 8/1/11 |
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| pencil wrote: | | mlloyd wrote: | | pencil wrote: | if we need to replace a hard drive after july 31, do we know if this is going to be a problem or will the system go through the authorization thru wirns as done thru the mothership previously?
anything we do do to prepare for life after no mothership?
thanks |
I re-imaged a 5504 (in order to enable IVS), and got it set up with WiRNS3.
It required disabling DHCP but it worked. |
I am unclear what you mean by turning off dchp. I do not have all my home network computers set as static addresses, only the one running wirns so i do not think i should/can do this at the router.
When i start using a new harddrive in my 4500 replay, the default ip settings are NOT STATIC. so wont it automatically try to go to the 'old mothership'?
are the files for wirns to handle all that the mothership did not local on my home computer, or some on a networked wirms server?
how do i test to be sure? (perhaps try a fresh disk image, unplug the cable modem from the outside internet)? not sure how i get the replay to point to the wirns on my lan if it is not authorized yet?
thanks for the assistance. i fell like i am almost there. |
Disable the DHCP server (it's normally the router that provides this service, so disable it there). It'll only be off temporarily, and won't cause a problem unless a computer tries to renew during that time. It you're worried, renew yourself first.
It won't go to the 'old mothership' since you've blocked all possible routes for it to FIND the 'old mothership'.
I first tried it with the cable modem unplugged, but that failed during "setting clock" since WiRNS couldn't access the time server. Perhaps if you got another PC on your LAN to act as a NTP server.
This is what I did:
I used RTVPatch to put a new image on a hard drive. This is a 'factory reset' image that allows IVS to be enabled on a 55xx. I installed it in my 5504 and made no connections except video out.
Then I went to the router config and disabled the DHCP server.
(with no ethernet connection) I powered on the 5504. I went through setup until it asked for network settings. I entered the (static) IP and netmask for the Replay, and put in the WiRNS 3 IP in all THREE places (gateway and DNS). I remembered to plug in the ethernet cable before pressing 'continue'.
It took a couple of minutes, and requested network settings again. I entered the same things as before. Then setup continued with WiRNS.
I could then turn DHCP back on and fix the gateway setting (necessary to use IVS). Everything worked except there's no Zones.
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pencil
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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amazingly, it did work. I did find that the image i have for the 4000/4500 is the same as on the site www.replaytvupgrade.com which is a zipfile named ReplayTV 40XX/45XX: Aug2-4000-4.3.zip (77 MB). (software ver. 520430280 built July 11,2002) (can be found by pressing 411 and replay zones).
However, my updated replay (updated from previous connects and updates with mothership, is a later version. # 520430360 dated Sept 15,2003.
I do know that 1 difference is the addition of an option under menu to connect to replay service. perhaps other glitches as well.
Any clue where to get an image for the 4xxx machines which has all the updates included? |
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mlloyd
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| pencil wrote: | amazingly, it did work. I did find that the image i have for the 4000/4500 is the same as on the site www.replaytvupgrade.com which is a zipfile named ReplayTV 40XX/45XX: Aug2-4000-4.3.zip (77 MB). (software ver. 520430280 built July 11,2002) (can be found by pressing 411 and replay zones).
However, my updated replay (updated from previous connects and updates with mothership, is a later version. # 520430360 dated Sept 15,2003.
I do know that 1 difference is the addition of an option under menu to connect to replay service. perhaps other glitches as well.
Any clue where to get an image for the 4xxx machines which has all the updates included? |
Is the one at http://rgb.cc/replaytv/images/replay/4xxx/ any later?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| No that is a 430280 version too. |
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pencil
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I spoke too soon.
I had tried the activation by plugging in a different freshly loaded drive. that worked.
When i plugged back in the drive that had been running, problems began. Channel guide disappeared. On a reboot, could not get past the waiting for replay screen no matter what. loaded new image twice and got activation notice that it had to be registered. this did not happen the 1st time and i am sure i had checked the disable dchp on router. not sure why it changed all of a sudden. never got the screens to enter ip addresses which would likely solve this. idea's??
back in 5 days and will try again.
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Space
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| Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Unplug the Ethernet cable from the Replay, then reboot it again.
Hopefully the Replay won't hang on bootup this time.
Once it boots up, and you can get to menus and stuff, then you can reconnect the cable and configure it. |
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arvysreyem
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| While connected to the mothership, the DCHP was disabled by recommendation to avoid any network bugs. Does this change with WiRNS 3 installed? So far it seems to make no difference, but bugs are bugs and pesky, too. |
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mlloyd
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| arvysreyem wrote: | | While connected to the mothership, the DCHP was disabled by recommendation to avoid any network bugs. Does this change with WiRNS 3 installed? So far it seems to make no difference, but bugs are bugs and pesky, too. |
You can disable DHCP to avoid the DHCP bug, or you can use Static DHCP (this has a lot of names like "address reservation). This sets the DHCP server to always give a certain IP to devices with that MAC.
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ScottKsander
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:50 am Post subject: Force Next Call Time issue |
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Force Next Call Time doesn't seem to be working. It did correctly set the next time in 2.0. 3.0 was installed over 2.0. Everything else is working fine. Anybody else seeing this?
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jslaff
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| I just wanted to give a huge THANK YOU to everyone who took their time to find a solution to this. We all owe you a very large debt of gratitude. |
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mlloyd
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| jslaff wrote: | | I just wanted to give a huge THANK YOU to everyone who took their time to find a solution to this. We all owe you a very large debt of gratitude. |
I want to too.
I downloaded and installed WiRNS 3 as soon as it became available. It installed easily and worked the first time.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: Force Next Call Time issue |
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| ScottKsander wrote: | Force Next Call Time doesn't seem to be working. It did correctly set the next time in 2.0. 3.0 was installed over 2.0. Everything else is working fine. Anybody else seeing this?
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I believe that this does not start working until after the Replay is rebooted (either manually or the weekly maintenance reboot). |
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bigbit1000
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: How do I use the same lineup twice. |
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| I had everything working. Then the other night I noticed that there was no standard cable lineup just the Digital one. Wrote to SD and they are checking. In the mean time I figured because they are the same channel numbers Cable is 1 to 76, Digital is 1 to 900 but the first 76 channels are the same. So If I put the same lineup on 1 and ANT/CATV I should be able to offset one lineup 1000 to differentiate. Well it looks good in WIRNS guide data but is not transferring to RTV. Only show one lineup not the offset one. Can't get the ANT/CATV input to show the offset one. Hoping SD gets my Cable lineup back. But I thought I could get this to work as it was working when SD was giving me 2 lineups with offset but not now. Any ideas? |
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Couldn't get WIRNS 3.0 to install. The installer quits almost immediately, and says it ended prematurely because of an error. A dos command window pops up for a split second before that happens, but it disappears too fast to catch what's going on. WIRNS 2 installed OK, after I updated the windows installer, and dot net framework. I really don't like to install updates unless absolutely necessary because you never know what they're going to screw up. I need to do a fresh install of windows, but I'm lazy. The problem is probably some update I don't have installed, or my install is hosed up somehow. I just figured because WIRNS 2 installed just fine, WIRNS 3 wouldn't have a problem. The old installer at least said why it was quitting.  I understand if helping to figure out why it won't install seems pointless if the problem is probably on my end. Just trying to avoid doing a fresh windows install if I can.
Given DNNA isn't shutting off the program guide data anymore, the situation isn't as dire as originally thought. I was all set to install WIRNS 3.0 tonight, and switch over to schedules direct. I kinda panicked, thinking I was going to have to do without my RPTV until I got it resolved. 
System is an older P4 system with XP pro, no service packs, just various patches.
Even though I might not end up using it, I do appreciate all the work put into WIRNS, and keeping the RPTVs going after the now defunct deadline. If I need to, I'll just start with a fresh windows install to make it work. Still nice to know there is an alternative way to get guide data.
What a mess this end of guide data business turned out to be.  |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: How do I use the same lineup twice. |
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| bigbit1000 wrote: | | I had everything working. Then the other night I noticed that there was no standard cable lineup just the Digital one. Wrote to SD and they are checking. In the mean time I figured because they are the same channel numbers Cable is 1 to 76, Digital is 1 to 900 but the first 76 channels are the same. So If I put the same lineup on 1 and ANT/CATV I should be able to offset one lineup 1000 to differentiate. Well it looks good in WIRNS guide data but is not transferring to RTV. Only show one lineup not the offset one. Can't get the ANT/CATV input to show the offset one. Hoping SD gets my Cable lineup back. But I thought I could get this to work as it was working when SD was giving me 2 lineups with offset but not now. Any ideas? |
Digital lineups can only be selected on the RTV under the Digital Cable menu...
In addition, the offset in WiRNS doesn't do anything to the RTV, it's only for the WiRNS ChannelGuide...
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: DNNA Guide Service Comeback? |
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http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/replaytv/
After the announced shutdown of the ReplayTV programming guide service, we have had many positive, enthusiastic comments about the ReplayTV DVR products and services. In light of this response, ReplayTV and its parent company Digital Networks North America, Inc. have decided to continue the electronic programming guide service pursuant to the terms of your service activation agreement. We thank you very much for all of your support and enthusiasm over the many years these products have been sold.
As we have said previously, the analog programming that the ReplayTV units are capable of recording is in fact likely to be converted to digital signals in the very near future at which point the ReplayTV units will no longer be able to record such programming. We encourage our users to consider digital video recorders that have this digital recording capability as well as additional technological advances which are not a part of the ReplayTV units (all of which were end of lifed by 2006). For monthly subscribers of the ReplayTV service, we are exploring options by which you may continue paying for and receiving such service going forward. We apologize in advance should there be any minor disruptions in the ReplayTV service while we implement the continuation of the programming guide. Thank you. ReplayTV
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engfant
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| QUESTION. Does this mean that you can use WiRNS with DNNA's guide and not have to subscribe to the other guide service? |
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bigbit1000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I know the DNNA and SD/Wirns programmers look in here so:
Well I switched back to DNNA and is seems they NOW have a problem with 17406 Zipcode too. A week ago before I changed to Wirns and SD it was fine at DNNA. If I use the 17402 or 17404 zips they have a regular cable and Digital cable but 17406 does not have a regular cable only lineup. (I can't use any other zipcode as they are different lineups than mine, I checked). It seems that now the same mistake is in both systems? Something is wrong in 17406 anyone/everyone.
Might be time to lose my RTV. Can't fuss with this crap every day! Might be Time to call Comcast to get shiny new DVR. I paid SD after I tested Wirns and SD and it all worked. RIGHT After I pay they lose my analog lineup in both systems! I should get refunded if they can't find it or resolve 17406 zipcode lineup (there should be 2, one Digital and one Cable/analog and the Cable one is just the first 76 channels of the digital, simple fix right, NOT) my RTV will not duplicate the same lineup so I can distinguish the different inputs. It does in wirns (offset 1000) not in RTV. I will go to Comcast DVR if not resolved in a week and will expect a refund from SD. Sorry but I have already wasted a week of time on this setup. I give up, there I said it. |
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bigbit1000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Well now I'm getting errors connecting to DNNA (93a63000b) for zipcode 17406. I think Wirns did some programming to stop RTV from connecting to DNNA. This is just to complicated/frustrating etc. |
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bigbit1000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I can connect if I don't use 17406!!!!!
Anyone know how to make my RTV back to normal from using Wirns? |
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bigbit1000
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| Thanks Brobin11 that was it. |
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