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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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Henry,
I have one of my Replays (5040) set up with two lineups; the digital lineup is channels 1-999 and the analog lineup is from 1000-1999.
Since the analog lineup is a subset of the digital lineup, all of the analog channels have digital equivalents.
My question is regarding the ToDo list and how it handles a Replay channel that is scheduled to record a show that is on the analog lineup...
Let's say I have the Replay set to record a show on channel 1005 (analog lineup). If I look in the ToDo list, it shows that the show is recording on both channel 5 (digital lineup) and on channel 1005 (analog lineup).
I was wondering if there was an easy fix for WiRNS to make it so that it only puts one entry in to the ToDo list which shows the correct channel that it will record. I see that there are two identical records in the todo schema, with the only difference being the "tuning" field.
I sometimes need to record from the analog lineup and sometimes I want to record from the Digital lineup, so knowing which channel it is really going to record by looking at WiRNS would be very helpful (so I don't have to go to the other room to look at the Replay).
A side affect of this change would be that when you do a "Show search" it would show the "dot" only on the channel that it will be recording instead of showing the "dot" on both 5 and 1005.
An interesting fact is that the WiRNS "Personal ToDo" in the Channel Guide only lists the channel that is recording (1005) and does not list the other channel (5), so it must be doing an extra check to make sure it only shows the correct channel. However, the Channel Guide itself has the "dot" on both 5 and 1005 (if you have that Replay that has both lineups selected, otherwise the "dot" is only on 5 (since that Replay doesn't have channel 1005) ).
I can see how this can get complicated because when I have "Recording Channels" selected, but don't have the Replay selected that has the 1005 channel, it shows channel 5 with the "dot", which I like, because I can see that it is really recording 1005 in the "Personal ToDo" at the top, and I can see more information on that show (and other shows on that channel) in the bottom section without having to select the specific Replay that has channel 1005.
Maybe the fix for this problem is not to remove the extra record from the todo schema, but to change the code so that it only shows one of the records in the different scenarios (1005 in ToDo, Personal ToDo (already does this), and Show Search and "dot" both channels (5 and 1005) in the main Channel Guide).
Another thing... When you attempt to schedule a show to record on this Replay through WiRNS, it pops up a window with radio buttons that asks which channel you want to record on (5 or 1005) which is good, but it would be better if it included the lineup for each choice as well, in case I forget that 5 is the Digital lineup and 1005 is the analog. Currently it just says "(Cable)" for both choices, example: | Code: | Please pick the appropriate timeslot:
O 2011-08-08 02:30 (30m) Cops WNYW 5 (Cable)
O 2011-08-08 02:30 (30m) Cops WNYW 1005 (Cable) |
Even if it just said "Digital Cable" and "Analog Cable" it would be good, but I would think including the lineup name would be better because it would also work just in case I had two different digital cable system lineups on one Replay.
If you feel this "fix" is worthwhile, I would appreciate it if it could be made available on version 2.1 of WiRNS as well, since that is what I am currently using.
Obviously this is not a big problem, so I understand if you are busy with more pressing issues, but hopefully it is something you might be able to help with in the future.
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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You're assuming that I am the only one that would look at this? And, if I'm not around then no one will reply to you?
| Space wrote: | I have one of my Replays (5040) set up with two lineups; the digital lineup is channels 1-999 and the analog lineup is from 1000-1999.
Since the analog lineup is a subset of the digital lineup, all of the analog channels have digital equivalents.
My question is regarding the ToDo list and how it handles a Replay channel that is scheduled to record a show that is on the analog lineup...
Let's say I have the Replay set to record a show on channel 1005 (analog lineup). If I look in the ToDo list, it shows that the show is recording on both channel 5 (digital lineup) and on channel 1005 (analog lineup).
I was wondering if there was an easy fix for WiRNS to make it so that it only puts one entry in to the ToDo list which shows the correct channel that it will record. I see that there are two identical records in the todo schema, with the only difference being the "tuning" field.
I sometimes need to record from the analog lineup and sometimes I want to record from the Digital lineup, so knowing which channel it is really going to record by looking at WiRNS would be very helpful (so I don't have to go to the other room to look at the Replay).
A side affect of this change would be that when you do a "Show search" it would show the "dot" only on the channel that it will be recording instead of showing the "dot" on both 5 and 1005.
An interesting fact is that the WiRNS "Personal ToDo" in the Channel Guide only lists the channel that is recording (1005) and does not list the other channel (5), so it must be doing an extra check to make sure it only shows the correct channel. However, the Channel Guide itself has the "dot" on both 5 and 1005 (if you have that Replay that has both lineups selected, otherwise the "dot" is only on 5 (since that Replay doesn't have channel 1005) ).
I can see how this can get complicated because when I have "Recording Channels" selected, but don't have the Replay selected that has the 1005 channel, it shows channel 5 with the "dot", which I like, because I can see that it is really recording 1005 in the "Personal ToDo" at the top, and I can see more information on that show (and other shows on that channel) in the bottom section without having to select the specific Replay that has channel 1005.
Maybe the fix for this problem is not to remove the extra record from the todo schema, but to change the code so that it only shows one of the records in the different scenarios (1005 in ToDo, Personal ToDo (already does this), and Show Search and "dot" both channels (5 and 1005) in the main Channel Guide). |
The ReplayTV operates by TMS IDs and not by channel numbers. That's what allows channels to change channel numbers and the recording tracks the new channel numbers. In your case, you have two lineups with the same TMS IDs, so it isn't clear which one would actually record the show. If something were to happen to one of the lineups, the RTV would switch to using the other lineup. My suggestion would be to get rid of the duplication in the first place. Which lineup is the one that you want the RTV to record from? And, why would you have channels that you aren't going to record from in the other lineup?
In my lineup, I have channels 2 - 99 for my analog lineups and remove channels 1-99 in my digital lineup so that my channels go from 2 - 99 for the analog lineup and 100 - 999 for the digital lineup. This makes all my channel number match the actual lineup channel in the first place. Maybe you could do something similar along these lines...
By the way, the personal ToDo only can display a single channel number, so it's not trying to pick the more correct one, it's just that it can only display one in the first place...
| Space wrote: | Another thing... When you attempt to schedule a show to record on this Replay through WiRNS, it pops up a window with radio buttons that asks which channel you want to record on (5 or 1005) which is good, but it would be better if it included the lineup for each choice as well, in case I forget that 5 is the Digital lineup and 1005 is the analog. Currently it just says "(Cable)" for both choices, example: | Code: | Please pick the appropriate timeslot:
O 2011-08-08 02:30 (30m) Cops WNYW 5 (Cable)
O 2011-08-08 02:30 (30m) Cops WNYW 1005 (Cable) |
Even if it just said "Digital Cable" and "Analog Cable" it would be good, but I would think including the lineup name would be better because it would also work just in case I had two different digital cable system lineups on one Replay. |
That information is provide by the scheduling ReplayTV in the first place. If you had tried to schedule the same show from a remote ReplayTV, it would have popped up the same selection choices. That wording comes from the ReplayTV itself, and as such doesn't have the information that you're looking for...
| Space wrote: | | If you feel this "fix" is worthwhile, I would appreciate it if it could be made available on version 2.1 of WiRNS as well, since that is what I am currently using. |
As Ryan has indicated, we won't be making changes like these to WiRNS 2...
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| Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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| hdonzis wrote: | You're assuming that I am the only one that would look at this? And, if I'm not around then no one will reply to you?
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I addressed this post to you because you had helped me in the past with ToDo related issues, and you've been the primary developer that has answered most of my questions for as long as I've been posting here. I am sorry if you are in some way offended by this. I will address my post to "WiRNS developers" in the future. | hdonzis wrote: |
The ReplayTV operates by TMS IDs and not by channel numbers. That's what allows channels to change channel numbers and the recording tracks the new channel numbers. In your case, you have two lineups with the same TMS IDs, so it isn't clear which one would actually record the show. If something were to happen to one of the lineups, the RTV would switch to using the other lineup. My suggestion would be to get rid of the duplication in the first place. Which lineup is the one that you want the RTV to record from? And, why would you have channels that you aren't going to record from in the other lineup? |
I have two lineups because sometimes I want to record from the digital lineup and sometimes I want to record from the analog lineup. I had already mentioned that in my original post. I record from the digital lineup during the night time hours when there is no chance the set top box channel will be manually changed. I am unable to record digital channels on this box during certain hours because the digital set-top box might be in use by other people to watch live TV, so if the network I want to record has an equivalent analog channel, I record that instead during these times. | hdonzis wrote: |
By the way, the personal ToDo only can display a single channel number, so it's not trying to pick the more correct one, it's just that it can only display one in the first place... |
The fact that the Personal ToDo can correctly display the proper channel number that will be recorded indicates to me that it is possible for WiRNS to display this information in other areas as well.
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That information is provide by the scheduling ReplayTV in the first place. If you had tried to schedule the same show from a remote ReplayTV, it would have popped up the same selection choices. That wording comes from the ReplayTV itself, and as such doesn't have the information that you're looking for... |
OK, I just thought it could be enhanced, I have noticed that same wording when scheduling on the Replay.
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As Ryan has indicated, we won't be making changes like these to WiRNS 2... |
Most unfortunate... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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| Space wrote: | | hdonzis wrote: | | The ReplayTV operates by TMS IDs and not by channel numbers. That's what allows channels to change channel numbers and the recording tracks the new channel numbers. In your case, you have two lineups with the same TMS IDs, so it isn't clear which one would actually record the show. If something were to happen to one of the lineups, the RTV would switch to using the other lineup. My suggestion would be to get rid of the duplication in the first place. Which lineup is the one that you want the RTV to record from? And, why would you have channels that you aren't going to record from in the other lineup? |
I have two lineups because sometimes I want to record from the digital lineup and sometimes I want to record from the analog lineup. I had already mentioned that in my original post. I record from the digital lineup during the night time hours when there is no chance the set top box channel will be manually changed. I am unable to record digital channels on this box during certain hours because the digital set-top box might be in use by other people to watch live TV, so if the network I want to record has an equivalent analog channel, I record that instead during these times. |
Well, as you can tell from the remote scheduling, you are creating a multi-path situation in the first place. I assume that ReplayTV didn't envision this kind of scenario. There's nothing I can do with the current design of WiRNS...
| Space wrote: | | hdonzis wrote: |
By the way, the personal ToDo only can display a single channel number, so it's not trying to pick the more correct one, it's just that it can only display one in the first place... |
The fact that the Personal ToDo can correctly display the proper channel number that will be recorded indicates to me that it is possible for WiRNS to display this information in other areas as well. |
The Personal ToDo has a 50-50 chance of displaying what you call the proper channel number. There's no code in it, it just shows one, probably the first one it finds, but maybe the last one it finds. So, there's no code that knows what the "proper" channel number is for me to display elsewhere...
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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Well, as you can tell from the remote scheduling, you are creating a multi-path situation in the first place. I assume that ReplayTV didn't envision this kind of scenario. There's nothing I can do with the current design of WiRNS...
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I would think that they did envision this since the Replay asks you which channel you want to record from when a remote Replay (or WiRNS) asks it to record a particular TMSID. If they did not expect this then I would think there would be unexpected or uncontrollable behavior (like it recording from the first channel it found that matched, etc.)
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The Personal ToDo has a 50-50 chance of displaying what you call the proper channel number. There's no code in it, it just shows one, probably the first one it finds, but maybe the last one it finds. So, there's no code that knows what the "proper" channel number is for me to display elsewhere...
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Ah I see, I didn't realize that.
In looking at the TWIKI, it does seem that the "tuning" parameter is available in the Channel and Program records that are associated with the ReplayShow structure. I would assume this data would be available to WiRNS if it wanted to get the correct information.
I realize that this does not affect many people, and may be challenging to implement, so I understand why it may not seem worthwhile.
I was just looking for some way for me to verify that I was recording from the proper channel without having to walk to the other side of the house and check the Replay manually (which I guess cannot even be done from the Channel Guide personal ToDo list anymore since you just made me aware of the fact that it is not accurate either).
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to consider it. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: To Do list for Replays with same network on two channels |
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| Space wrote: | | hdonzis wrote: |
Well, as you can tell from the remote scheduling, you are creating a multi-path situation in the first place. I assume that ReplayTV didn't envision this kind of scenario. There's nothing I can do with the current design of WiRNS...
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I would think that they did envision this since the Replay asks you which channel you want to record from when a remote Replay (or WiRNS) asks it to record a particular TMSID. If they did not expect this then I would think there would be unexpected or uncontrollable behavior (like it recording from the first channel it found that matched, etc.)
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The Personal ToDo has a 50-50 chance of displaying what you call the proper channel number. There's no code in it, it just shows one, probably the first one it finds, but maybe the last one it finds. So, there's no code that knows what the "proper" channel number is for me to display elsewhere...
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Ah I see, I didn't realize that.
In looking at the TWIKI, it does seem that the "tuning" parameter is available in the Channel and Program records that are associated with the ReplayShow structure. I would assume this data would be available to WiRNS if it wanted to get the correct information.
I realize that this does not affect many people, and may be challenging to implement, so I understand why it may not seem worthwhile.
I was just looking for some way for me to verify that I was recording from the proper channel without having to walk to the other side of the house and check the Replay manually (which I guess cannot even be done from the Channel Guide personal ToDo list anymore since you just made me aware of the fact that it is not accurate either).
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The conflict is that you are asking to record the exact same show on the exact same TMSID channel which also has the exact same channel tuning parameters. From WiRNS' standpoint, there is a single recording schedule which is matching more than one show data, being from two different lineups, but both with the same TMSID and both matching the same channel number...
The RTV can resolve this because it has input controls in the recording schedule, which seem to only provide a direction, as the RTV would happily change which input it would use if it found it necessary. WiRNS does not support input controls as you can plainly see, and like DVArchive, only supports lineups in a gross sense, not from an individual input sense...
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WiRNS is aware of the separate channel numbers, as can be seen in the ToDo list (it lists a show that is set to record on channel 1005 as being recorded on both channel 5 and 1005 on that particular RTV).
So they are not "both matching the same channel number" unless I misunderstand what you are saying.
I understand your statement about the Replay recording from channel 5 instead of 1005 if for some reason 1005 was no longer available, and the "1005" is just "direction" or "preference". But I don't understand why this precludes WiRNS from taking this "preference" in to consideration.
If the real channel number is available in the "tuning" field of the ReplayShow structure, then it should be technically possible to do this.
Like I said, I understand if WiRNS is not structured to easily handle this, and I accept that it would be too much work for too little gain.
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| Space wrote: | WiRNS is aware of the separate channel numbers, as can be seen in the ToDo list (it lists a show that is set to record on channel 1005 as being recorded on both channel 5 and 1005 on that particular RTV).
So they are not "both matching the same channel number" unless I misunderstand what you are saying.
I understand your statement about the Replay recording from channel 5 instead of 1005 if for some reason 1005 was no longer available, and the "1005" is just "direction" or "preference". But I don't understand why this precludes WiRNS from taking this "preference" in to consideration.
If the real channel number is available in the "tuning" field of the ReplayShow structure, then it should be technically possible to do this.
Like I said, I understand if WiRNS is not structured to easily handle this, and I accept that it would be too much work for too little gain. |
You're not misunderstanding me, they are exactly the same channel number! Offsets on the channel lineup don't change the channel number. And, that's not what gets stored in the recording schedule. Whether the channel offset was 0, 100, 500, 1000, or even 2000, it would still be channel 5. The channel number in the recording schedule is channel 5, not 1005. So, you have a recording schedule that says to record a show on channel 5 for the TMSID of channel 5. That is matching two shows which are both airing on that TMSID with a channel number of 5. Your digital cable lineup has that show on channel 5 and your analog cable lineup also has that show on channel 5. You're getting confused that channel offset comes into play in any way what so ever. Those are simply there to make looking at the channel guide a bit less confusing. But, in this case, it is more confusing to you because it makes you think that they are different channel numbers when they aren't. Go to Zap2It.com or look at your video provider's channel guide, and you will see that they are both channel 5 on both lineups...
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| I understand that, of course, but WiRNS mentions both channel 5 and channel 1005 (in the ToDo list and in the Channel Guide), so it (at some level) looks at it as channel 1005. |
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| Space wrote: | | I understand that, of course, but WiRNS mentions both channel 5 and channel 1005 (in the ToDo list and in the Channel Guide), so it (at some level) looks at it as channel 1005. |
Change your channel offset in WiRNS and watch the channel number in the ToDo list change with that. If the channel number, 1005, was coming from the RTV, then it wouldn't change with the offset configured in WiRNS, which is only for channel viewing. WiRNS is artificially showing channel 1005 just to make it convenient for you, just like the RTV does. It doesn't change the fact that the recording is for channel 5 and not channel 1005...
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But the ReplayChannel record includes the headend_id which I assume is what WiRNS sees, so it will know which provider a particular Replay Channel is set to record from.
So it can just match up this with the offset that was configured for this provider and know what "virtual" channel number on that Replay will be recorded.
So while the "tuning" filed in the ReplayChannel may say "5", it also has the headend_id in this same record, so it can look that up and see that on this particular Replay, that provider is offset by 1000 (or at least that is how WiRNS is configured). So now it know that the "channel" on that replay that is set to record is channel 1000 + 5 or 1005 (assuming that WiRNS is correctly configured with the same offset that is used by that Replay, which I can think of no purposeful reason for it not to be). |
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| Space wrote: | But the ReplayChannel record includes the headend_id which I assume is what WiRNS sees, so it will know which provider a particular Replay Channel is set to record from.
So it can just match up this with the offset that was configured for this provider and know what "virtual" channel number on that Replay will be recorded.
So while the "tuning" filed in the ReplayChannel may say "5", it also has the headend_id in this same record, so it can look that up and see that on this particular Replay, that provider is offset by 1000 (or at least that is how WiRNS is configured). So now it know that the "channel" on that replay that is set to record is channel 1000 + 5 or 1005 (assuming that WiRNS is correctly configured with the same offset that is used by that Replay, which I can think of no purposeful reason for it not to be). |
A you posted to bankcello, WiRNS doesn't have to be serving guide data to your Replays, so it doesn't assume that it can use the headend ID. In addition, the headend IDs between your analog lineup and digital lineup are exactly the same as well! So, you have exactly the same TMSID, exactly the same channel number AND exactly the same headend ID...
Maybe you should try using guide parser to parse your guide snapshot before making all these claims on what WiRNS should be able to tell...
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Maybe you should try using guide parser to parse your guide snapshot before making all these claims on what WiRNS should be able to tell...
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I ran WIRNSGP (not sure if this was the program you were referring to) and here is partial output for one of the Replay channels (this is a show based single recording):
| Code: | [2011-08-10 22:19:53] Replay Schedule # 5
[2011-08-10 22:19:53]
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] Replay remapped this one.
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showTitle: So You Think You Can Dance
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] channelID: 1312422828 8/4/2011 1:53:48 AM
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showID: 0
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] inputSource: 3
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] quality: STANDARD
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] Guaranteed: 0
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showFlags: 0
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] realTuning: 5
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] callSign: WNYW
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] struct_size: 272
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] autorecord: 1
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] isValid: 1
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] tuning: 1005
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] programFlags: 1589251
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showTime: 1313107200 8/12/2011 12:00:00 AM
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] tmsid: 11746
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showDuration: 120
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So it seems to include both "realTuning" and "tuning", one which has the real channel, "5" and the other that has the offset channel, "1005". This one was actually set to record from channel 1005 (analog), so the "tuning" value is correct (in terms of showing the same channel recording as is displayed on the Replay).
Here is a show based repeat recording channel:
| Code: | [2011-08-10 22:19:53] ReplayGuide Show # 4
[2011-08-10 22:19:53]
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] channelTitle: Take the Money and Run
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] channelID: 1312269252
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showID: 1312937997
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] inputSource: 3
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] quality: STANDARD
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] guaranteed: 0
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] showFlags: 0
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] channel: 1007
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] struct_size: 272
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] autorecord: 1
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] isvalid: 1
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] tuning: 1007
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] eventtime: 1312938000
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] tmsID: 11259
[2011-08-10 22:19:53] minutes: 60
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In this case it does not even include the real channel, both "channel" and "tuning" show the offset channel of "1007" instead of the real channel "7". This channel was set to record from channel 1007 (analog), so again, the "tuning" value is correct (as displayed on the Replay).
Here is one where the channel that is set to record is channel 2 (digital), there is also the analog channel 1002 with the same TMS ID , however in this one there is not even a mention of 1002:
| Code: | [2011-08-10 22:40:57] Replay Schedule # 8
[2011-08-10 22:40:57]
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] showTitle: Judge Judy
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] channelID: 1313030440 8/11/2011 2:40:40 AM
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] showID: 0
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] inputSource: 3
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] quality: STANDARD
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] Guaranteed: 0
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] showFlags: 0
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] realTuning: 2
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] callSign: WCBS
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] struct_size: 272
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] autorecord: 1
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] isValid: 1
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] tuning: 2
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] programFlags: 16391
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] showTime: 1313092800 8/11/2011 8:00:00 PM
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] tmsid: 11331
[2011-08-10 22:40:57] showDuration: 30 |
Both "realTuning" and "tuning" show channel "2", so once again the "tuning" value shows the correct channel number (as displayed on the Replay).
So based on these results, it appears to me that the information you need to tell which lineup it is recoding from (by assuming the WiRNS offset and lineups are the same as the offset and lineups on the Replay) is available to WiRNS. |
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hdonzis
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There's something wrong with the information about your show-based recording that it doesn't show the tuning information...
I was talking about GuideParser, not WiRNSGP, in particular, GuideParser5...
Those tuning parameters that you are so interested in are for display only, just like the ToDo likes to create it's ToDo shows with the offset channel number to make displaying easier. It has nothing to do with the recording setup itself, which is the channel that it has to tune to. Those offset channel numbers can change at a moments notice, just your video provider adding a channel can change the offsets of your other linueps. That's why the recordings are done on the REAL channel numbers, not the fake channel numbers that the ReplayTV assigns. In fact, talking about fake channel numbers, what about the fact that the ReplayTV assigns fake channel numbers to the channels in a single lineup that are beyond channel 999 and it reassigns below 1000? Do you think those channel numbers are "real" and that WiRNS should take those into account somehow even though they only show on the ReplayTV Channel Guide and wouldn't match any othe channel listing or TV guide that you would find?
So, WiRNS is not going to depend on that you've setup your channel offsets correctly in your configuration, nor that your channel offsets correctly reflect the current offset on your ReplayTV, which may have just changed with the last net connect. WiRNS doesn't use the channel offsets at all except to display channel guide data so that it looks as much the same on WiRNS as it would on the ReplayTV that you select in the ChannelGuide...
And, by the way, you really need to check the TWIKI against the information you are checking out. Those channel numbers that represent the information that you are looking for are only available on recorded shows, for display purposes only, not on show recordings, which is probably why they don't show up from WiRNSGP on your show-based recording (Which GuideParser5 would probably show more correctly). The only part of a show recording that has to do with the actual recording are documented here, and only contain the actual channel recording information (AKA, the REAL channel number) and things like the headend ID that you were so interested in. You can see the tuning inforamation documented as "The channel number to tune to, on this headend and device, for this channel" which clearly would be the same channel number for both your analog and digital lineups for the common channel numbers...
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