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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Help with extract_rtv and RTV Explorer Reply with quote

I'm really frustrated. I have searched for answers on how to use these programs so I can copy some shows off a hard drive via pc. Here are the problems.
*RTVExplorer is empty and sees no drives. If I try to do anything I get error 2 then a script error. Nothing happens.
*extract_rtv.exe briefly pops up a command screen that disappears before I can see anything
*When I try using the command prompt window for extract_rtv I get extract_rtv is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file

There are no instructions on how to use these programs and I can not get them to work. RTVPatch sees the drive just fine, it also shows in my bios and in windows disk management as unallocated. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are attempting to use these with a Replay 5000 series, you might want to download extract_rtv5 instead as it can do more things with the Replay 5000 series...

The problem I had when first using RTVExporer was that it had the path to the extract_rtv5.exe wrong. It had extract_rtv.exe instead of extract_rtv5.exe (missing the '5' in the file name)...

The way you use extract_rtv5.exe is to open a command prompt and CD into the directory where extract_rtv5.exe is located. Then you can execute it and see it working...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am using the latest version 65 which has the 5 in it. I will try your suggestions. Thanks.

RTVExplorer still does not work. I get error 2. I copied extractrtv5 into the working folder but no change.

Extractrtv5 now works but it says there are no replaytv disks
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mskitty666 wrote:
I am using the latest version 65 which has the 5 in it. I will try your suggestions. Thanks.

RTVExplorer still does not work. I get error 2. I copied extractrtv5 into the working folder but no change.

Extractrtv5 now works but it says there are no replaytv disks


If you copied extract_rtv5.exe over the old one which was in the same folder as RTVExplorer, then you still need to change the setting in RTVExplorer for extract. This is under "Settings->More Settings ands Tools" under "Program Settings" were it says extract_rtv.exe. I think it defaults to extract_rtv.exe instead of extract_rtv5.exe (missing the '5' in the file name)...

Extract_rtv5 uses the same discovery as RTVPatch. So, you should run RTVPatch and make sure it shows the Replay hard drive. Then, extract_rtv5 should see it as well...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your help. RTVpatch shows a yellow question mark and says not a replaytv disk. I made a backup of the drive before but I can not select the backup image as a source to copy the system partition back to the drive. I guess in my disgust and anger over the replay acting up I might have done something to the drive that erased it's replay id. What ever. I'm done. It would be nice to use these tools when theres no emergency but I have nothing to work with. My shows are lost and now I'm really cranky. Lesson learned. If you want something done right do it yourself. I just need to build my own dvr.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mskitty666 wrote:
Thanks for your help. RTVpatch shows a yellow question mark and says not a replaytv disk. I made a backup of the drive before but I can not select the backup image as a source to copy the system partition back to the drive. I guess in my disgust and anger over the replay acting up I might have done something to the drive that erased it's replay id. What ever. I'm done. It would be nice to use these tools when theres no emergency but I have nothing to work with. My shows are lost and now I'm really cranky. Lesson learned. If you want something done right do it yourself. I just need to build my own dvr.


Just to let you know that there is still hope. First, you probably let Windows attempt to make it into a Windows drive. That is fixable if you want to go to the trouble. Second, if you made a backup of the drive, then you can run extract_rtv5 on the backup. You simply run "extract_rtv5 <backup file name> [options]"...

If you copy the backup image file into the same directory as extract_rtv5, it will probably make things easier. So, if you run something like "extract_rtv5 <backup file name> -ds" it will show you everything about all the recordings and scheduled recordings on that Replay hard drive. If that shows you the recordings that you are interested in, then you can decide if you want to attempt to repair the disk or not.

By the way, you do not select the backup as a source, you select the Replay hard drive as a target and select "Restore Target Drive", which will bring up an open file dialog box where you select the backup file. But, you don't want to do that to try to get the drive back. If you want to restore the drive, then you need to repair the partition table. It is a bit hard to do under Windows, but it can be done...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mskitty666 wrote:
Thanks for your help. RTVpatch shows a yellow question mark and says not a replaytv disk. I made a backup of the drive before but I can not select the backup image as a source to copy the system partition back to the drive. I guess in my disgust and anger over the replay acting up I might have done something to the drive that erased it's replay id. What ever. I'm done. It would be nice to use these tools when theres no emergency but I have nothing to work with. My shows are lost and now I'm really cranky. Lesson learned. If you want something done right do it yourself. I just need to build my own dvr.


After you check the backup image with extract_rtv5 (you can run "extract_rtv5 <backup image file name> -p1 -v" to check it), I think that you can simply use it to restore your Replay hard drive back to the way it was before Windows mucked it up. I am checking with the author of RTVPatch to see if that should work, so check if the image is good, and hopefully I will hear back shortly if that is the way to fix it or not...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mskitty666 wrote:
Thanks for your help. RTVpatch shows a yellow question mark and says not a replaytv disk. I made a backup of the drive before but I can not select the backup image as a source to copy the system partition back to the drive. I guess in my disgust and anger over the replay acting up I might have done something to the drive that erased it's replay id. What ever. I'm done. It would be nice to use these tools when theres no emergency but I have nothing to work with. My shows are lost and now I'm really cranky. Lesson learned. If you want something done right do it yourself. I just need to build my own dvr.


I've looked at the code and thought about it a bunch, and if you have the backup image that you made with RTVPatch before all this happened, you can simply restore it and fix the drive back to being able to extract the shows. The proceedure would be to get it back up and running in your PC with RTVPatch. Set the Replay drive as target. Then, press the Restore Target Drive push button. An open file dialog box will open, and you should select the backup image file that you created with RTVPatch. After it restores the target you should NOT restore the MPEG partition NOR the photo partition! In addition, you should NOT patch the drive at all! It will warn you that the drive needs to be patch, but because you are restoring your original saved drive image, you DON'T want to patch it.

When you exit RTVPatch, now you should be able to run extract_rtv5 on it. Even if the system partition is a mess, you should still be able to extract all your shows off the MPEG partition. But, hopefully you will also be able to extract the show description files using the -dx option...

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mskitty666 wrote:
...It would be nice to use these tools when theres no emergency but I have nothing to work with. My shows are lost and now I'm really cranky...

mskitty666 (if you havent given up entirely) I also tend to believe those shows are there and could be recovered if important. Even if you have no system partition, which it sounds like you don't.

Actually, so far, I've never encountered a "please wait" replay drive with an accessible system partition. So I couldn't make much use of Henry's amazing tweaks when I needed them most. cry baby

(hmmm... did I once read about a hack to parse pertinent saved WiRNS RTV5040xxxxxxxxxxx.guide and RTV5040xxxxxxxxxxx.xml files for program titles/descriptions??)

Anyway since the drive is still spinning and recognized by the bios, use extract to take a look at p2. If it's there (and the mpeg files are there) it's not difficult to manually extract them. Just a matter of how important your shows were.

It's not a quick process to sort through all the *untitled* files. And you might need to replace the first sector of the replay drive in order to get extract to find p2. In some situations repairing the partition table may also revive p1. But I didn't find that to be the case, when the "please wait' drive was in the ReplayTV when it stopped booting entirely with bad sectors.

On the other hand, if the image you (recently) took of -p1 is valid, then I'd agree the prognosis is probably much better for a simple fix, complete with relatively easy to retrieve shows/listings.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also want to post this help that KenL posted on AVSForum (I assume it's the same "KenL" ):

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RS250 Chester 03-27-06 11:10 AM

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One More Question

ALmost there....just one more question:

I started to patch the target disk. The question of partition 2 is a little different. I suspect its because the original replay drive is not attached. The question says:

"Do you want to try to preserve the shows on the MPEG partition? Answer YES ONLY IF you copied the whole MPEG partition. The safe answer is NO?"

So I'm a little confused, which way do I go.

I looked at other posts and its pretty specific about asking to reset, but not sure about the message I got on the screen.


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Quote:

Originally Posted by RS250 Chester
"Do you want to try to preserve the shows on the MPEG partition? Answer YES ONLY IF you copied the whole MPEG partition. The safe answer is NO?"


Whoops... the answer in this case would be yes.

Preserve the shows!

That's one of the ways FlipFlop makes 'nix so friendly -- concise instructions and informative operational feedback. Without getting in our way.

Only wish more software was so logical.


So, be careful. I'm thinking since I instructed you NOT to patch the drive, you won't get any of those questions. Hopefully you can just restore the system partition and exit RTVPatch and be done...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KenL wrote:
(hmmm... did I once read about a hack to parse pertinent saved WiRNS RTV5040xxxxxxxxxxx.guide and RTV5040xxxxxxxxxxx.xml files for program titles/descriptions??)


HACK???!!! I wrote a little quickie something (hmmm... I guess it WAS a hack ), ConvertXML, which will convert WiRNS RTVNNNNxxxxxxxxxxx.xml into the individual DVArchive XML files for program titles/descriptions...

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KenL wrote:
Anyway since the drive is still spinning and recognized by the bios, use extract to take a look at p2. If it's there (and the mpeg files are there) it's not difficult to manually extract them. Just a matter of how important your shows were.

It's not a quick process to sort through all the *untitled* files. And you might need to replace the first sector of the replay drive in order to get extract to find p2. In some situations repairing the partition table may also revive p1. But I didn't find that to be the case, when the "please wait' drive was in the ReplayTV when it stopped booting entirely with bad sectors.

On the other hand, if the image you (recently) took of -p1 is valid, then I'd agree the prognosis is probably much better for a simple fix, complete with relatively easy to retrieve shows/listings.


I suspect that she was a victim of Windows Disk Management messing up her hard drive. Anyway, since both RTVPatch and extract_rtv5 say that there are no Replay drives detected, she can't do anything with the p2, MPEG partition (as in this discussion that you partook: http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590814 which explains the HARD way of fixing the Replay partition table after Window Disk Management messes it up)...

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hdonzis wrote:
HACK???!!! I wrote a little quickie something (hmmm... I guess it WAS a hack ), ConvertXML, which will convert WiRNS RTVNNNNxxxxxxxxxxx.xml into the individual DVArchive XML files for program titles/descriptions...

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Thanks... guess I never knew the name of it it. I might be back when I have time to play with it.

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hdonzis wrote:


I suspect that she was a victim of Windows Disk Management messing up her hard drive. Anyway, since both RTVPatch and extract_rtv5 say that there are no Replay drives detected, she can't do anything with the p2, MPEG partition (as in this discussion that you partook: http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=590814 which explains the HARD way of fixing the Replay partition table after Window Disk Management messes it up)...

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My suspicion is there are a number of corruption scenarios which present in a variety of ways.

My last "please wait" drive was during May sweeps, I believe around when you started on the extract_rtv5 overhaul. When I first pulled it out of the Replay, it would spin up but was not recognized as a replay drive. First thing I did was stripe the whole thing to new drive with dd. dd logged a number of unreadable sectors, all within p1. If I recall, I could see p2 ok at that time and saw the mpegs. I did try restoring the partition table, and that made it show up as replay drive. But still nothing on p1. Can't be exactly sure @ what point I could see the mpegs.

What I did was save the XML and Guide files from WiRNS for that unit. Then perused those to correlate file names and extract the most important shows. I imported those to DVA using cut and paste to restore the titles/descriptions from the WiRNS files.

Still have that drive with perhaps 50 additional (less important) shows. I may extract them if I can *automate* that cut and paste bit to get my DVArchive XML files.

If mskitty666's drive *lost* it's "relay drive status" after already removed from the replay, it very well could be windows management. But if it was "please wait" when she pulled it then perhaps not. The key to her situation is probably when she made the image of the p1 and whether or not it's valid. In any case I'd guess the shows are still on p2, and would @ worst be unlinked (?) if, as a last resort, she had to re-image and patch (not clone) the drive. Provided nothing has since written to that part of the disk.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KenL wrote:
My suspicion is there are a number of corruption scenarios which present in a variety of ways.

My last "please wait" drive was during May sweeps, I believe around when you started on the extract_rtv5 overhaul. When I first pulled it out of the Replay, it would spin up but was not recognized as a replay drive. First thing I did was stripe the whole thing to new drive with dd. dd logged a number of unreadable sectors, all within p1. If I recall, I could see p2 ok at that time and saw the mpegs. I did try restoring the partition table, and that made it show up as replay drive. But still nothing on p1. Can't be exactly sure @ what point I could see the mpegs.


Amazing! That's when my 5080 crapped out as well, and I was stuck with a bunch of season finales on my non-bootable hard drive! I had lost a 5040 system previously, but the shows weren't as important. But, this time, dag nab it, I was going to retrieve those shows rather than download a bunch of shows from Poopli! So, that's when I went to work on extract_rtv5...

As far as losing your show descriptions, I guess it depends on how you restored the partition table. If you used FlipFlop's technique of only DD'ing the first two sectors and then running RTVPatch, then it would have to be a more serious problem with the drive. But, if you restored a drive image to your drive, then you would lose all the show descriptions (I believe that FlipFlop warned about that in the post I referenced)...

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What I did was save the XML and Guide files from WiRNS for that unit. Then perused those to correlate file names and extract the most important shows. I imported those to DVA using cut and paste to restore the titles/descriptions from the WiRNS files.

Still have that drive with perhaps 50 additional (less important) shows. I may extract them if I can *automate* that cut and paste bit to get my DVArchive XML files.


Yeah, that's exactly what happened to BigJohns. He begged me to write a quickie app for him (he said that Ryan suggested I should do it). It took me about 5 minutes. It almost could have been done with a script file, or awk would have handled it just fine. But, I went ahead and wrote that liitle app that Ryan posted on wirns.com...

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If mskitty666's drive *lost* it's "relay drive status" after already removed from the replay, it very well could be windows management. But if it was "please wait" when she pulled it then perhaps not. The key to her situation is probably when she made the image of the p1 and whether or not it's valid. In any case I'd guess the shows are still on p2, and would @ worst be unlinked (?) if, as a last resort, she had to re-image and patch (not clone) the drive. Provided nothing has since written to that part of the disk.


It sounded like it was a Replay drive when she first started messing with it, and she said that she had made a backup (although, that could have been in the past). You are certainly correct that if the 1st partition was really badly messed up, that just patching the partition table would be enough to make it so you could extract the shows even if you couldn't get the show descriptions...

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Just to clarify, here's what happened I had a 5160 then got two 5504s. When I got the two 5504s, I upgraded them each with Seagate160HDDs and put the original 5504 drive into my 5160 which was starting to give me troubles. The original 5160 drive has been sitting until.... My bedroom 5504 was stuck on please wait and had been locking up etc. Opened it up formatted it reimaged drive and put it back in use. The only important shows were all scifi and scheduled to repeat last friday so I did not attempt recovery. The problem drive is the 40G drive from my living room 5160. I figured I would reformat the original 160 Maxtor drive copy the shows onto it and be up and running. When I pulled the drive out the first thing I did was make a backup of the fully functioning drive. Then I thought I copied everything, but when I put the 160hdd in the replay it didn't have any shows. All of my Categories, settings and channels were intact, but no shows. I also had made backup copies of the original 40 g hdds from the 5504s before upgrading them. Here's what happens when I tried your suggestions to get extractrtv5 working.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe
extract_rtv version 65 built on Oct 16 2006 10:45:04

USAGE: DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <devicename> <options>
-l directory listing
-d show program descriptions (brief)
-dv show program descriptions (verbose)
-da show ALL (incl. deleted) descriptions (brief)
-dd show ALL (incl. deleted) descriptions (verbose)
-dx output descriptions as XML files
-dr show program recording descriptions
-ds show program snapshot descriptions
-dsv show program snapshot descriptions (verbose)
-dsa show ALL (incl. deleted) snapshot descriptions (brief)
-dsd show ALL (incl. deleted) snapshot descriptions (verbose)
-dsx output snapshot descriptions as XML files
All description options force to the 1st partition
-e extract all files
-e filename extract single file or subdirectory
Defaults to the 2nd paritition
-b NNNN set read buffer size (default=128)
-p device file is a partition
-pN use partition N (N=1,2,3,4)
-r cluster# restore unlinked/lost file at this cluster
-s force on the RTV4000 byteswapping
-u look for unlinked (deleted) files
-ur look for and restore unlinked (deleted) files
Defaults to the 2nd paritition
-ud look for and show unlinked program descriptions (brief)
-udv look for and show unlinked program descriptions (verbose)
-uda look for and show ALL unlinked descriptions (brief)
-udd look for and show ALL unlinked descriptions (verbose)
-udx look for and output unlinked descriptions as XML files
-udr look for and show program recording descriptions
-uds look for and show program snapshot descriptions
-udsv look for and show program snapshot descriptions (verbose)
-udsa look for and show ALL snapshot descriptions (brief)
-udsd look for and show ALL snapshot descriptions (verbose)
-udsx look for and output snapshot descriptions as XML files
All description options force to the 1st partition
-v verify drive integrity
-w filename localfile
overwrite filename with localfile
-x force program descriptions output in brief list

If you omit <devicename>, extract_rtv will attempt to
autodetect the ReplayTV device connected to your system.


Mdisgusted>extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\5160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> -
s
The system cannot find the file specified.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\
160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> -ds
The system cannot find the file specified.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\5
60\2004.10.06.rtv -l
Unable to open drive image file: No such file or directory

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\
160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> -l
The system cannot find the file specified.

Mdisgusted>M:\DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\R
V\5160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> -ds
The system cannot find the file specified.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\
160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> <-l>
< was unexpected at this time.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\
160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv> <-ds>
< was unexpected at this time.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <-l>
The syntax of the command is incorrect.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <-ds>
The syntax of the command is incorrect.

Mdisgusted>m:\DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <My Documents\Backups\RTV\
504O\2004-10-7.rtv> <-l>
< was unexpected at this time.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <My Documents\Backups\RTV\550
O\2004-10-7.rtv> <-l>
< was unexpected at this time.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe <m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\
160\2007-01-26rtv5160> <-l>
< was unexpected at this time.

Mdisgusted>DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5.exe m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\5
60\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv -l
Unable to open drive image file: No such file or directory
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did Not put in the emoticons! The forum keep changing it.
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When file paths have spaces in them, then you have to put double quotes around the path. In command line descriptions, corner brackets, <>, mean that the information goes here, not that you should type in corner brackets themselves. Square brackets, [], mean that the information is optional. I guess it is just generally known that when a paramter has spaces in it, then it has to be place within double quotes (look at some of the properties of some of your Windows shortcuts and you will see that they are within double quotes). So, it would look something more like:

extract_rtv5 "m:\My Documents\Backups\RTV\160\2007-01-26rtv5160.rtv" -ds (you don't need the .exe on the end of the command name)

By the way, that was why I suggested that you copy the backup image file in the same directory as extract_rtv5.exe. Or, you could copy extract_rtv5.exe in the same directory as your backup image file. That way, you would only have to enter "extract_rtv5 2007-01-rtv5160.rtv -ds"...

I had read your previous posts on your swapping drives awhile back, so I already knew about that...

I guess the question is how you created 160GB drive? If the 40GB drive was giving you problems and you copied it to the 160GB drive, then I would think that you would be copying the problems to the 160GB drive (depending on the problems you were having, like if it was having problems booting, that would usually copy over to the new drive because it is usually due to corruption in the system partition). If you want to copy a whole drive WITH the shows, then you have to click "Copy System Partition" followed by "Copy MPEG Partition", and I always go ahead and copy the photo partition as well. I think after you copy the system partition is sometimes asks you if you want to copy the MPEG partition as well. If not, just click the button. Then you run the Patch and tell it to preserve the MPEG partition...

Normally, if you are having problems with a drive, you have to put a new image on the replacement drive. In this case, copying the shows doesn't help you have them on the Replay because the show information is kept on the system partition and the new image isn't going to have the information about the shows that were on your Replay. That is why the only way you can keep your shows on a Replay is to copy the system partition from the original hard drive, which has all the show information. Unfortunately, when the original system partition is bad, then you have no choice...

Anyway, once you get your 40GB back up and running (following the instructions above to restore the system to the 40GB drive), then you can try again to copy everything to the 160GB drive. Unfortunately, you will have to start over with copying the system partition first because when you brought up the 160GB drive in the 5160 and there were no shows, it already erased all the show information that was copied over the first time. Just start over from the begining and copy the system partition, MPEG partition and photo partition and the patch the drive again (and tell it to preserve the MPEG and photo partitions). Unless, of course, you were using a new image file to put on the 160GB drive, in which case there is no point in copying any of the other partitions to the 160GB drive...

I'm here if you need more help!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I did Not put in the emoticons! The forum keep changing it.


We already understand that. If you want stuff shown "as is", the use the Code display option:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WooHoo! Success Thanks for taking the time to explain everything. Finally I can see the shows in my backup image. The 40G drive was working perfectly, but I didn't find out I screwed up copying the shows until after the 160G drive was installed, the cover replaced, and everything was hooked back up. Too much trouble. It seemed easier to just get the missing shows from my backup, and thanks to you, now I probably can. I will test it out later and hopefully no problems.

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It might have been easier, but my drive is partitioned so that only certain things go in certain partitions. I also allocated the most disk space to the partitions with games or files. If I don't keep everything organized in one place in my system, stuff gets lost or not backed up.[/code]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WooHoo! Success Thanks for taking the time to explain everything. Finally I can see the shows in my backup image. The 40G drive was working perfectly, but I didn't find out I screwed up copying the shows until after the 160G drive was installed, the cover replaced, and everything was hooked back up. Too much trouble. It seemed easier to just get the missing shows from my backup, and thanks to you, now I probably can. I will test it out later and hopefully no problems.


Just want to make sure that you realize that the shows are NOT on the backup image, only the show descriptions. However, since your 40GB drive is not recognized as a Replay hard drive, you will need to restore the backup image to your 40GB hard drive WITHOUT patching or messing with your MPEG or photo partition. That will put your 40GB hard drive back to being recognized as a Replay hard drive so that you can then extract the shows. You extract the shows by executing "extract_rtv5 -p2 -e". That is going to copy all of the shows (up to 40GB) into whatever current directory you are running in. After the shows are extracted, then you run "extract_rtv5 -dx" to create all the XML files to go with all the shows so that you can then access the shows RIGHT AWAY with DVArchive, WiRNS, or IVSmagic (untested)...

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By the way, that was why I suggested that you copy the backup image file in the same directory as extract_rtv5.exe.


It might have been easier, but my drive is partitioned so that only certain things go in certain partitions. I also allocated the most disk space to the partitions with games or files. If I don't keep everything organized in one place in my system, stuff gets lost or not backed up.


This is where using the GUI interface makes things a lot simpler! But, the command line world has its own way of operating, and you need to understand the rules. As I explained above, when you extract all of your shows, it is going to put them in whatever directory you are running in (for example, you have been running from the root directory of your m: drive). You can use the CD command to put yourself in whatever directory you want to extract the shows into. So, if you want to extract all the shows to \My Documents\Backups\RTV\160, for example, then while you have the command prompt on the m: drive, run cd "\My Documents\Backups\RTV\160" (notice the double quotes are necessary in this case). Then you would run something like \DOWNLOADS\RTV\extract_rtv_65\extract_rtv5 -p2 -e to extract all the shows into the 160 folder. Or, you might want to CD into your DVArchive or WiRNS download directory to put the shows there for easy access. Of course, you can always use Windows Explorer to move the shows where ever you want. Or, you can simply add the path to your extracted shows to either DVArchive or WiRNS...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for your patience and sharing your expertise. I have successfully imported all the shows to DVArchive. I know this stuff seems simple to you but, in case you hadn't noticed, command prompts aren't exactly my thing. I am taking notes on how to properly use extract_rtv for future reference. Hopefully next time will go much more smothly.
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Thank you very much for your patience and sharing your expertise. I have successfully imported all the shows to DVArchive. I know this stuff seems simple to you but, in case you hadn't noticed, command prompts aren't exactly my thing. I am taking notes on how to properly use extract_rtv for future reference. Hopefully next time will go much more smothly.


I'm THRILLED to hear it!

I grew up in the command line world, so I'm most comfortable in it...

I'm glad you were able to get your shows into DVArchive so easily. That was my hopes. Extract has been around for a long time, but I don't know what people did with all their shows after they extracted them. I had read about them burning them to DVD just to watch them one time. That seemed kind of silly when all I wanted to do was watch them from the Replay that I recorded them on. I was thrilled to find that a guy named Alex had created extract_rtv5 which was a start at extracting the program descriptions, but he hadn't finished it. I really wanted it to be a reality, so I picked it up and added the -dx option (my BIG claim to fame) which made being able to "see" the extracted shows a reality...

Anyway, I glad to hear that it sounds like you were able to revive your 40GB hard drive so that you could extract both the shows and the show descriptions!

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