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 Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: *=* Who's Available for Testing IVSmagic, RIGHT NOW??? *=* |
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Who's available, RIGHT NOW, for some IVSmagic testing??? 
- REPLY that you're available via this thread.
- EXCHANGE ISNs via PM.
- Be sure to indicate your TIME ZONE!
[West Coast people will SURELY be disappointed when East Coast people want to go to bed @ 12:00AM EDT (GMT-5:00) and they're just getting started @ 9:00PM WDT (GMT-8:00)!  ]
IMO, this can be a "reusable" thread, throughout the day, whenever someone is looking for someone else to test with... 
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Not sure what you need tested exactly. I have some sends going through IVSm at the moment.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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If you PM me with one of your ISNs, I'd like to "attempt to" SEND you a 30 minute show via IVSmagic and monitor the %.
It may involve a few CANCELs and RETRIES, but, that's what TESTING is all about.
Game?
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PM already sent.
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| Rao74311 wrote: | | PM already sent. |
2 Shows already sent! THANKS!!!
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The PM's seem to take a little while to get through. I accepted the hour long show first, I'm going to cancel it and accept the 30 min like you wanted.
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OK. I'm off to bed.
Thanks for your help tonight Rao74311!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject: It will take ~15 min. for a Replay to start counting a RCV % |
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The *LAST* thought that I want to get posted tonight / today before heading off to la-la-land (for the past 90+ minutes!) is (Rao74311, I trust you'll forgive me for posting your PM):
| Rao74311 via PM wrote: | | I accepted the 30 min show awhile ago and it's still showing 0 MB and 0%. Are you seeing any outbound traffic on your end? |
| Hairston wrote: | JUST FOR THE RECORD:
It will take around 15 minutes for a Replay to start counting up a show received percentage in it's "Received" category after you "accept" the send. This is because it will transfer each of the the 3 required files (NDX, EVT, MPG) one at time at 5 minute intervals. It will only show the progress of the MPG file and since it always transfers the MPG file last, it won't show up at the very least for 10 to 15 minutes. |
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And, no Rao74311, bottom line, after MUCH MORE THAN 15 minutes, I still saw no outbound traffic. BUT, I thought that Bob's statement needed to be noted (Maybe "someone" will assemble an IVSmagic FAQ someday)...
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jorgejun,
I'm ready to take you up on your gracious offer to accept some IVSm SENDs - are you still there? [You haven't read / answered the PM reply I sent you hours ago...] 
After some lunch and a shower, I'll be available for a few hours (at least) for anyone looking to test...
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:35 am Post subject: I AM available to test |
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Yes, I am here and ready to test. I was expecting a popup (like on Poopli) telling me about a new PM, so I didn't see your message.
Anyone else who wants to test can PM me and I'll provide an ISN. I plan on being at my desk most of the day (don't judge me ) |
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As you suggested, I'm moving this discussion to the forum.
I just sent you a 2 minute show.
| Quote: | The first show (Out of Practice) is from an unproxied CA/IVS 5504 using WiRNS DNS to you, but IVSm is not using WiRNS
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You say you aren't seeing any progress in IVSm. I see you are sending the show from xx.xx.xx.xx:xxx14 (hiding ip and port since this is a public forum)
Did you send it from IVSm?
Is your router forwarding port xxx14 to your IVSm box?
Do you have IVSm bound to port xxx14?
Is your replay IVS port set to xxx14?
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| TakeTheActive via PM wrote: | - The first show (Out of Practice) is from an unproxied CA/IVS 5504 using WiRNS DNS to you, but IVSm is not using WiRNS
- The second show (Behind the Scenes) is from my proxied 5040 B using ISP DNS.
- The third show (Arrested Development) is from my unproxied 5040 A using ISP DNS.
- The fourth show (BG) hasn't been sent yet, but will be from DVA.
All SENDs were initiated through IVSm. Setup is as BASIC as possible - no WiRNS, only the proxied 5040B is port-forwarded through IVSm.
That should cover all the possible combinations! |
| jorgejun via PM wrote: | | ...As far as loopback goes, I am getting the same results as many others. I can send, but the show is 0mb, and my replay reboots if I try to play it. |
| TakeTheActive via PM wrote: | ...Exactly! And no errors, no progress on the RTV "Transferring" screen, and since I don't stand there watching it, I come back later, it looks done, I click on it and the RTV reboots...   GRRRRR... |
| jorgejun wrote: | As you suggested, I'm moving this discussion to the forum.
I just sent you a 2 minute show. |
I'll go back and accept it in a minute (or 2 or 3...)
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You say you aren't seeing any progress in IVSm. I see you are sending the show from xx.xx.xx.YYY:xxx14 (hiding ip and port since this is a public forum)
- Did you send it from IVSm? YES
- Is your router forwarding port xxx14 to your IVSm box? NO. As it says above, my 5040 B is proxied at xxx12 and router is pointing it to IVSm
- Do you have IVSm bound to port xxx14? NO. xxx12
- Is your replay IVS port set to xxx14? 5040A @ xxx11, 5040B @ xxx12, 5504A @ xxx14, IVSm @ xxx12
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I see a steady 46KBps on the Network Meter on 5504A, nothing on IVSm (heuristics?), I initiated the SEND via IVSm, but only 5040B is pointing back through IVSm.
Please cancel Show #1 and let's move onto Show #2...
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| Quote: | | Please cancel Show #1 and let's move onto Show #2... |
done. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: FINALLY!!! |
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| jorgejun wrote: | | Quote: | | Please cancel Show #1 and let's move onto Show #2... |
done. |
Show #2:
Sent 12 MB of 432 MB (2.7%)
(last update 10/01/2005 4:22 pm)
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Andy Griffith from you is still 0MB of 16MB...
I see an intermittent 66KBps on the Network Meter on 5040B.
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| Quote: | Show #2:
Sent 12 MB of 432 MB (2.7%)
(last update 10/01/2005 4:22 pm) |
That's good news. Do you want me to accept the other sends?
| Quote: | | Andy Griffith from you is still 0MB of 16MB... |
This is not good news. I sent you another show, from a different replay. Please cancel Andy and accept the new one. |
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| jorgejun wrote: | | Quote: | Show #2:
Sent 12 MB of 432 MB (2.7%)
(last update 10/01/2005 4:22 pm) |
That's good news. Do you want me to accept the other sends? |
Not yet. I'd like to see one finish. Then, I think I'd like to re-direct the ports for #3 and see what happens. #4 I'm sure is going to fail since it's a Local_Guide show.
| jorgejun wrote: | ...
| Quote: | | Andy Griffith from you is still 0MB of 16MB... |
This is not good news. I sent you another show, from a different replay. Please cancel Andy and accept the new one. |
Andy's OUT; World of Adventure is IN... [Lunch is cooking... ]
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| hdonzis wrote: | Apparenlty you sent me three shows -- Two from B and one from A. It was just lucky that my wife and I decided to watch something on that Replay and noticed the Received lit up. Anyway, the first two (from B) have already completed download, but the little 4 minute clip causes my Replay to reboot when I try to play it. The one hour Battle Star Galatica episode also causes my Replay to reboot when I try to play it. But, while the show description says 1 hour, the channel description says less than 1 minute. So, I don't think that I really successfully downloaded the 1 hour show...
The third show download (from A) is still in progress (although it has been interrupted three times now by my unit rebooting)... |
Henry,
Please cancel all those "OLD" SENDs - I wondered whose IP popped up before in the Apache Log when it wasn't jorgejun's
The Rubber Duckie clip (from MaxH) and BG are from DVA and Jorge and I are both experiencing the same results when we try to play them - reboots. [See my list of Test Shows further up in this thread.]
It looks like I can *FINALLY* send from a Replay to another Replay (WOW! ) but, although the Loopback Test passes, Local Sends just sit, and sit, and sit and then, poof! they're done, but they make the Replay reboot.
Thus, quark2, jorjejun and I are all in the "Local_Guide Sends Are 0MB and cause the Receiving ReplayTV to Reboot" Boat...
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2nd send is working. Not sure why the 1st didn't work. Both replays are configured the same.
1st Send. 5504 at 172.16.0.12:xxx03. Uses wirns (172.16.0.9) as its DNS server.
2nd send. 5040 at 172.16.0.10:xxx01. Uses wirns as it's DNS server.
Wirns is running IVSProvider. IVSProvider.conf has both replays set to 172.16.0.9. Sends between Replays work.
IVSm has both xxx01 and xxx03 bound to it (they appear on the status screen). Router is forwarding both xxx01 and xxx03 to IVSm (172.16.0.9, same as WiRNS)
Only difference I see is that the 5040 says (Proxied) on the IVSm status screen. I thought this meant it was the replay that would be used for loopback sends.
Any ideas? Maybe I should change the proxied replay to the 5504 and try another send? |
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Another show (lunchtime appropriate too) is heading your way. This is from the 3rd replay.
| Quote: | | It looks like I can *FINALLY* send from a Replay to another Replay (WOW! ) but, although the Loopback Test passes, Local Sends just sit, and sit, and sit and then, poof! they're done, but they make the Replay reboot. |
When you say local sends I assume you mean sends from your local guide. On my end, sends from one replay to another work fine. I use IVSm to inititiate the sends and the transfer status shows up. Sends from the local guide to one of my replays happen as you describe above. Have you tried a send from your local guide to an external Replay? I just sent you an episode of New Yankee from my local guide.
Please accept 'Good Eats' first, then we'll move on to the local guide send. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| jorgejun wrote: | | ...Please accept 'Good Eats' first, then we'll move on to the local guide send. |
'World of Adventure' looks good. 'Good Eats' has been accepted.
UPDATE: 'Good Eats' is coming in at an average 19KBps. What's the size of your pipe? Am I your only SEND in progress?
| jorgejun wrote: | | ...When you say local sends I assume you mean sends from your local guide. On my end, sends from one replay to another work fine... |
The *FIRST* successful LAN Replay-to-Replay (5504A-to-5040B) IVSm-initiated transfer has completed! (Out of Practice - a bit yellow, wouldn't you say?) [Loopback through SMC7004BR *WITHOUT* WiRNS.] I don't even remember starting it, but it's there in the IVSm "Send Progress" Screen...
A "strange" item in there is another LAN send, from 5040B *TO* 5040B (just an experiment); the Nicknames are right, but the IP looks like Henry's!?! (ends in .177)
| jorgejun wrote: | | ...I use IVSm to inititiate the sends and the transfer status shows up... |
Since the 'proxied' Replay is working nicely, next I want to re-direct 5040A's port through IVSm. IIRC, according to Henry, these are not "persistent" HTTP connections, so "maybe" everything will recover after my router reboots.
| jorgejun wrote: | | ...Have you tried a send from your local guide to an external Replay? |
Rubber Duckie, Battlestar Galactica and Star Trek: Enterprise are the "test" Local_Guide shows. Henry already indicated that those sent "days ago" with either v0.9.0.8 or v0.9.0.7 caused his Replay to reboot. You're going to get BG via v0.9.1.0, if that makes a difference (it *STILL* shows 0MB of 0MB (100%)
| jorgejun wrote: | | ...I just sent you an episode of New Yankee from my local guide. |
Holding...
[BTW, the microwave beeped that my baked potato was done almost an hour ago. So, if I don't reply right away, I'll be cooking my burger, eating my salad, and re-heating my potato. Sure is NICE to finally be making some progress! ]
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| Quote: | | UPDATE: 'Good Eats' is coming in at an average 19KBps. What's the size of your pipe? Am I your only SEND in progress? |
Looks like a send I made yesterday just got accepted so you're only getting half of my upload bandwidth. Go ahead and cancel Good Eats (unless you want it). You can also cancel the New Yankee I sent you from my local guide. It already shows as complete in IVSm, so I don't expect it will work any differently than all of my other local guide sends. |
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jorgejun,
| jorgejun wrote: | | Looks like a send I made yesterday just got accepted so you're only getting half of my upload bandwidth. Go ahead and cancel Good Eats (unless you want it). You can also cancel the New Yankee I sent you from my local guide. It already shows as complete in IVSm, so I don't expect it will work any differently than all of my other local guide sends. |
'Good Eats' has been cancelled.
'New Yankee Workshop' was started and then paused for eclectic.
eclectic,
| eclectic wrote: | Just sent my test clip from the local guide (DVArchive).
I'm about to grab some dinner but I'll be back shortly. |
'From Local Guide' (1 min) was accepted, but hasn't started transferring according to the Network Meter.
UPDATE: Looks like something is coming in at ~16KBps!
Guys - we may have the "Local_Guide" answer tonight!!!
A home movie (camcorder?) of your dog, occupying about 25% of the screen, centered in the middle!?!
amfriedman,
'Justice League' is next in the "queue"... [What is the source? Local_Guide or RTV?]
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OK. I'm now going to test "Crash Recovery"
I'm going to stop IVSm, re-direct the ports of my other 2 Replays through IVSm, and re-start my router and IVSm. Back in a few...
UPDATE: Back up, and Show #1 to jorgejun NOW INDICATES:
Sent 328 MB of 423 MB (77.4%)
I can see the Network Meters on 5504A and 5040B toggling like the pendulum in a grandfather's clock:- 5040B - 66KBps; 5504A - 00KBps
- 5040B - 00KBps; 5504A - 66KBps
- 5040B - 66KBps; 5504A - 00KBps
- 5040B - 00KBps; 5504A - 66KBps
On a P4 2.4GHz 1GB RAM Win2K Pro SP4, Task Manager shows:- 1% CPU Utilization
- 2 instances of Apache.exe
- 2 instances of php-cgi.exe
Seems to have recovered well...
Once eclectic returns from dinner and "teaches us" the magic of the "Local_Guide", we'll be set!
Henry,
If you ever get around to reading this, I "think" I understand now what you were saying the other day about "non-persistant" HTTP connections; SPLAT, STOP, SPLAT, STOP... I wonder if it doubles "wall-clock" transmission time?
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Yep - that's my 100# dog.
I'm glad you got that because I've sent several shows from the local guide and I was getting concerned that it was possible they didn't work. No one's complained though so I was pretty sure I had no problem. (That and I could see progress on the send at about the rate I'd expect.) |
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eclectic,
Teach us the secret, o wise one!
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| Another issue with 0MB, I just sent some test sends from replays (thru IVSm) i have 2 episodes of Alias, 1 give the right size the other gives 0MB. Other sends from units ok (at least the few I tested). |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject: Another BUG for Bob... |
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jorgejun,
You CANCELLED Show #1 (Out of Practice), right?
The IVSm "Send Progress" Page is still sending and updating, BUT the IP changed to Henrys!!!
All the rest of your data is there, nickname, isn, today's day - only the IP changed...
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Well, I'm not sure what the SECRET is but I can describe my setup:
Processor is AMD Duron 1.3 GHZ with 512MB memory running Windows XP home edition. AVG free edition for virus protection.
I have DVArchive 3.1 with JRE 1.4.2_6
The DVA files are on a 200GB drive mounted as E:
The path to the DVA files is E:\JV\DVA
I'm running IVSM version 0.9.1.0 beta (The Serenity Release)
My LAN is configured as 192.168.221.x
RTV is 5040 (upgraded to 250GB) on .201 - listens on port 29000
IVSM machine is .8
2nd RTV is a 5504 that doesn't do IVS (my wife's unit.) We do stream between units though.
Router is a Soekris embedded PC running monowall. It doesn't support loopback. I'm not running WIRNS right now though I have played with it on another machine.
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| jorgejun wrote: | | Quote: | | UPDATE: 'Good Eats' is coming in at an average 19KBps. What's the size of your pipe? Am I your only SEND in progress? |
Looks like a send I made yesterday just got accepted so you're only getting half of my upload bandwidth. Go ahead and cancel Good Eats (unless you want it). You can also cancel the New Yankee I sent you from my local guide. It already shows as complete in IVSm, so I don't expect it will work any differently than all of my other local guide sends. |
I take that back. Now that you've cancelled good eats, my replay is showing no send activity. While it was sending, the meter was bouncing between 0 and 67KBps. This is the same replay that is receiving from you. I'm speculating that the combination of sending through IVSm and receiving caused the send to be slower. I'd hate to think that IVSm is going to reduce the effective transfer speed.
This makes me wonder, is it necessary for the traffic between sending replay to go through IVSM? Perhaps it could go something like this:
- receiving replay sends get chunk request to senders IVSm
- IVSm gets the data it needs from the chunk request to track the send progress ** big assumption here **
- IVSm forwards the chunk request to the sending replay but changes the source address to that of the receiving replay
- Sending replay sends chunk directly to the receiving replay
Of course, the big assumption is that the chunk request contains enough info to track send progress. Maybe that's not the case. |
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jorgejun,
I just sent you a 1 min clip of eclectic's 100# dog.
I d/l'd it via DVA v3.1 from 5040B onto Dell4100, then copied it to the Local_Guide sub-directory on Dell400SC, where IVSm 0.9.1.0 is running.
Let's see if it's the FILE or the IVSm installation that's messing us up...
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